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technology it has to be in clear terms

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feeling of you know certain types of

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which the patent office will not

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people here too is if you are ever

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thinking about obtaining a patent is

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there's a time requirement to get it

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your technology you basically have a one

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that that can kind of start a ball

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rolling you have to actually get moving

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all these earlier disclosures become

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prior art against yourself

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areas where you might some of the ideas

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might be in in inventions in 20 years

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generators or other things long term

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done row but who knows you know when you

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reiteration of some of the concepts that

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patent when you know you do a certain

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process you obtain a patent on a process

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you take certain steps to get there but

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that's happening along the way it's hard

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located you know anywhere in the world

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sending data back and forth it can be a

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system that you can put on your desk

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programmer working on stuff and then

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before is you know contracts it's very

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people that if you hiring someone for a

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task make sure you own the technology

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anything about nobody i would think

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they will only invest in it if they know

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they can own it

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in uh enabling a company to own

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number of different patents

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that if you if you hide it then someone

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disclose the basic idea and then someone

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improvement and patents that and stops

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to disclose doesn't necessarily mean

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protected the whole area and that's

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technology transfer policies and you're

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guidelines and in that case it belongs

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and it took me a while to actually admit